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Offline frapuano  
#1 Posted : 21 February 2017 23:58:54(UTC)
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Hi Martin,

this is just to know if it is possible from Smath using Maxima to handle limits of functions of 2 variables.

Thanks in advance for your feedback

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#2 Posted : 22 February 2017 00:39:02(UTC)
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this is just to know if it is possible from Smath using Maxima to handle limits of functions of 2 variables.

There is no hint on such capabilities in the maxima handbook.
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#3 Posted : 22 February 2017 19:11:28(UTC)
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this is just to know if it is possible from Smath using Maxima to handle limits of functions of 2 variables.


The limit of a function of two variables is the contour limit @ user value.
Maxima X_Y plots by default the 0 level contour. For other 'level(s)'
use the maple solve block.

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#4 Posted : 22 February 2017 20:08:40(UTC)
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The limit of a function of two variables is the contour limit @ user value.
Maxima X_Y plots by default the 0 level contour. For other 'level(s)'
use the maple solve block.

Jean


What is a Maxima X_Y plot? Why would you need some solver for other levels if you can plot 0 level?

As I understand, the bivariate limit is a function of the x,y values and of the direction of approach.
It would be helpful to see what you expect to see (examples).
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#5 Posted : 23 February 2017 19:41:09(UTC)
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What is the meaning of: handle limits of functions of 2 variables
Wait for the f(x,y):=
X_Y plots contour of any level in the domain of existence w/o solver.
The solver is for discretising the export.

Contour [Wolfram Looping].sm (20kb) downloaded 28 time(s).
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Joan unlukily doesn't work this way.

For a limit of a function in 2 variables ( or more ) its results may depends on the path used to reach it so the program I guess that needs to use a coordinate conversion or other methods to find it and to check that is independent from the path used .
So it is necessary a specific algorithmic "intelligence" to solve such a type of problems.
In my search have found a Wolfram alpha widget that does this in a very good way ...

http://www.wolframalpha....16861a528d6221f5ac88eefd

Best regards

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#7 Posted : 24 February 2017 21:11:27(UTC)
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Wolfram is of no help as you can check by yourself: it is ill posed.
"the limit of functions of two variables ..."

read: implict f(x,y) have solutions wrt 'x' or 'y' alternately.

Read the two Smath documents

Jean

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#8 Posted : 24 February 2017 21:26:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post
this is just to know if it is possible from Smath using Maxima to handle limits of functions of 2 variables.


From the previous work sheets, answer is probably "NO"
Maxima will plot many implicit functions.

In the attached:
1. Valery Ochov "ImplicitFunctionGrapher"
2. an example of the CONTOUR matrix extractor

I presume I can exemplify the 'maple' RootOf,
Please, let me know.

Jean

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