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Offline Lelar  
#1 Posted : 20 December 2021 20:38:00(UTC)
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I need to pass these codes that are in Mathcad Prime to Smath, does anyone know how I can do it?
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#2 Posted : 20 December 2021 21:19:50(UTC)
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There is currently no converter from .mcdx format to .sm. And there is no one to do it, although it is possible.
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#3 Posted : 20 December 2021 21:45:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lelar Go to Quoted Post
I need to pass these codes that are in Mathcad Prime to Smath, does anyone know how I can do it ?

Make your MCDX compact/readable not a scratch sheet.
If not too long, make an image, some will inspect.

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#4 Posted : 20 December 2021 21:49:00(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lelar Go to Quoted Post
I need to pass these codes that are in Mathcad Prime to Smath, does anyone know how I can do it?
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Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Lelar Go to Quoted Post
I need to pass these codes that are in Mathcad Prime to Smath, does anyone know how I can do it ?

Make your MCDX compact/readable not a scratch sheet.
If not too long, make an image, some will inspect.


I don't have the MCDX, I only have the pdf.
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#5 Posted : 20 December 2021 21:53:14(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lelar Go to Quoted Post
I don't have the MCDX, I only have the pdf.

In this case, only manually.
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#6 Posted : 20 December 2021 21:55:52(UTC)
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I don't have the MCDX, I only have the pdf.

In this case, only manually.

But the programming is the same in Smath? I mean, for example the FYN or root function still works?
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#7 Posted : 20 December 2021 22:08:32(UTC)
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Not same, but very similar.

Regards

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#8 Posted : 21 December 2021 18:05:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Lelar Go to Quoted Post
But the programming is the same in Smath ?
I mean, for example the FYN or root function still works ?

Smath has many solvers. FYN from implicit roots(,,,).
roots will solve on the canvas [MACH number]

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#9 Posted : 21 December 2021 18:20:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post
Smath has many solvers. FYN from implicit roots(,,,).
roots will solve on the canvas [MACH number]

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So you simply reposted my answer?
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#10 Posted : 21 December 2021 19:17:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: overlord Go to Quoted Post
So you simply reposted my answer ?

Not exactly, not case of transit via local definition.
Take care ... Jean.

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#11 Posted : 21 December 2021 20:55:46(UTC)
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Yes, they are same.
You just rename y# to y.
And deleted line()'s.
What a cheap act.

Side by side comparison:

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#12 Posted : 21 December 2021 21:58:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: overlord Go to Quoted Post
Yes, they are same.
You just rename y# to y.
And deleted line()'s.
What a cheap act.

# not needed, crowds document
Not a case of local definition, crowds/confuses new Smath user
As you offered, Smath looks weird.
End of it.
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#13 Posted : 21 December 2021 22:17:57(UTC)
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Not a case of local definition, crowds/confuses new Smath user

I have deliberately put to show as it will be calculated.
Variable can be named whatever user wants by the way.
I am sure Lelar is not confused, as he is a new user.
Variable names doesn't crowd/confuse smath users.

Your "silent unit" crap confuses new users, crowds topics.
Your "non related" replies confuses new users, crowds topics.
Your "posting same reply for 4 times" confuses new users, crowds topics.
Your "color racket worksheets" confuses new users, crowds topics.
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#14 Posted : 22 December 2021 12:59:40(UTC)
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Hi,

Maybe off topic between overlord and Jean Giraud's conversation, but what's the difference between a function definition with line() and a definition with line() removed? Will there be a difference on how SMath calculates it?

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#15 Posted : 22 December 2021 15:01:39(UTC)
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In short line | is a descending dependent collection.
Welcome to Smath Community ... Jean.

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#16 Posted : 22 December 2021 22:16:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chito Go to Quoted Post
...but what's the difference between a function definition with line() and a definition with line() removed? Will there be a difference on how SMath calculates it?

There will be a difference, a huge one actually.
When a variable is defined before function,
and that variable is used inside the function,
if line is used, variable redefine shall effect result.
if not used, variable redefine won't effect the result of function.
Which mostly we don't want not effecting, so using line() is better.

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I mostly define function variables with unique naming. (# after variable for example)
So common used variable names won't effect function results.
This is my habit and I think it is a useful one.
This naming doesn't crowd pages or confuses people.
It is minimizing calculation errors caused by author.

f(x#;y#):=x#^2+2*y#

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#17 Posted : 23 December 2021 05:31:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post
In short line | is a descending dependent collection.
Welcome to Smath Community ... Jean.


Thank you for the very warm welcome, Jean.

Is there a reason why Dy is within in eval()? I tried removing it in the function and the result looks the same.

Originally Posted by: overlord Go to Quoted Post

if line is used, variable redefine shall effect result.
if not used, variable redefine won't effect the result of function.
Which mostly we don't want not effecting, so using line() is better.


I think this is a very important point that I need to keep in mind. Using unique names in functions is also a great suggestion. Thank you overlord.

Cheers.
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#18 Posted : 23 December 2021 17:45:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chito Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for the very warm welcome, Jean.
Is there a reason why Dy is within in eval()?
I tried removing it in the function and the result looks the same.

Two typos in your 'chito' document: Manilla, Kota Kinabalu in Sabah.
You are right, no need to Dy:=eval(,) is so fast.
eval(,) applies to parse result as a numeric entity.
It breaks the chain calculation. Per application experimental.
The rule eval(,) is crucifying ... watch the demo attached.
from 65 s down to 0.015 s !!!
Take care ... Jean

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#19 Posted : 24 December 2021 02:21:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post
eval(,) applies to parse result as a numeric entity.

In simple words, the kernel is a vector of calculated from what to calculate.
In this example, the last that will be calculated is eval([R G B])
It gains 1 min [3/4].
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#20 Posted : 24 December 2021 03:13:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: chito Go to Quoted Post
Is there a reason why Dy is within in eval()?

eval() makes computations faster most of time.
Very minor times, may have no effect or slows the calculation.
It would be wise to choose where and when to use it.

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Originally Posted by: chito Go to Quoted Post
I think this is a very important point that I need to keep in mind. Using unique names in functions is also a great suggestion. Thank you overlord.

Well thank you, glad if I could help.
There are some other tricks to remember as well.
Here is list of which come to my mind at this instant;
  • symbolic/numeric optimization
    most errors can be parsed with selecting the right one
  • Δ temperatures (Δ°C, Δ°F, Δ°Re)
  • not using units for some solvers {solve(), roots()}
    or using multiplications at right place to trick solver as value is unitless
  • using maple() or maxima() for most symbolic results (better support)
  • smath vectors/matrices starts with 1, mathcad starts with 0
    some new users troubles with converting mathcad functions to smath
  • recursive functions shall give an error after 50 steps
    better not to use it, try to wrtie algorithms conventional way
  • eval() for faster calculations
  • line() for functions (not needed always)
  • to be careful for variable names
  • choosing right plot for the right job
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