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Offline struktron  
#1 Posted : 18 August 2013 13:19:36(UTC)
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Hello,

I am new and my English is bad. I wood like to transform my
http://struktron.de/FSK/Feinstrukturkonstante.xmcd
to
http://struktron.de/FSK/Test-FSK.sm
My (18), integral with sqrt, I can't solve. What can I do? Is it impossible?

Thanks for solution or suggestion,
Lothar W.

Edited by user 18 August 2013 13:48:41(UTC)  | Reason: title completed

Do collisions of spheres generate the fine structure constant?
http://struktron.de/FSK/...onstante-Berechnung.html

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#2 Posted : 18 August 2013 14:43:57(UTC)
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I can't see an equation (18) in either of the files (xmcd opened with SMath). I don't know of problems with integral and sqrt, but there are definitely porblems with integrating over functions defined using if(), see attachment.
File Attachment(s):
Section Math Integrals.sm (30kb) downloaded 35 time(s).
Section math integration units.sm (20kb) downloaded 21 time(s).
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#3 Posted : 18 August 2013 15:30:45(UTC)
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Hello,

thanks for quick answer.
My first problem is, that I can't open my .xmcd in SMath Studio. There is a mistake in German:
Die Datei oder Assembly "TextRegion, Version=1.9.4868.42191, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null" oder eine Abhängigkeit davon wurde nicht gefunden. Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden.
My system is Windows Vista.
Did You open my http://struktron.de/FSK/Feinstrukturkonstante.xmcd with SMath and how?

My (18) is a definition for the function G(U,V,beta). In the integral I need, that U and V are numbers and beta a variable.

Regards,
Lothar W.
Do collisions of spheres generate the fine structure constant?
http://struktron.de/FSK/...onstante-Berechnung.html
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#4 Posted : 18 August 2013 15:45:40(UTC)
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You probably have the Cephes math plugin installed, at least your error message is typical for the problems it causes. See this post and the messages around it for details.

You also might try the inofficial distribution. It is portable and stores it's settings and extensions separately from the SMath version installed via Windows installer. It also comes with an extensive, yet very incomplete bilingual german/english handbook (pages of which I attached to the previous post).

See the printout of the imported xmcd file in SMath in the attachment.
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fk.pdf (175kb) downloaded 20 time(s).
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#5 Posted : 18 August 2013 17:19:03(UTC)
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Hello,

thank You very much for the portable version. With it I can open my .xmcd. The well known problems with text I know from Your very good handbook.
In my Test-FSK.sm I have the problem in (18) also with Your distribution (int( , , , ) - die Funktion ist nicht bestimmt).

My wish is, to give people a free program for testing my hypotheses. How could I solve that?
Discussions we have on ALLTOPIC.

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Lothar W.
Do collisions of spheres generate the fine structure constant?
http://struktron.de/FSK/...onstante-Berechnung.html
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#6 Posted : 18 August 2013 17:25:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: struktron Go to Quoted Post
(int( , , , ) - die Funktion ist nicht bestimmt).
My wish is, to give people a free program for testing my hypotheses. How could I solve that?

1. Import the file and rework manually
2. (Off topic here) Import to Mathcad Prime Express. You need the full version to do so.

Edit: The Test-FSK.sm has equations only up to (13)
Edit: Give a hint, how the function should look like. Is it possible to input it manually?

Edited by user 18 August 2013 17:31:01(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline struktron  
#7 Posted : 18 August 2013 19:12:32(UTC)
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Hello,
Originally Posted by: mkraska Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: struktron Go to Quoted Post
(int( , , , ) - die Funktion ist nicht bestimmt).
My wish is, to give people a free program for testing my hypotheses. How could I solve that?

1. Import the file and rework manually
2. (Off topic here) Import to Mathcad Prime Express. You need the full version to do so.

Edit: The Test-FSK.sm has equations only up to (13)
Edit: Give a hint, how the function should look like. Is it possible to input it manually?

Now I have it up to up to (18) in my Test-FSK.

My question: can I take functions like in Mathcad, with variable limits of integrals?

Thanks and regards
Lothar W.
Do collisions of spheres generate the fine structure constant?
http://struktron.de/FSK/...onstante-Berechnung.html
Offline mkraska  
#8 Posted : 18 August 2013 19:29:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: struktron Go to Quoted Post
My question: can I take functions like in Mathcad, with variable limits of integrals?Thanks and regards
Lothar W.

Just rename the dummy integration variable. Integral limit and dummy variable should not have the same name (That's not a software limit but a math rule).

Edit: Hint added to handbook page.

Edited by user 18 August 2013 19:37:27(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

File Attachment(s):
Section Math Integrals.sm (30kb) downloaded 13 time(s).
mkraska attached the following image(s):
integral.PNG
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Offline struktron  
#9 Posted : 18 August 2013 21:22:12(UTC)
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Hello,
Originally Posted by: mkraska Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: struktron Go to Quoted Post
My question: can I take functions like in Mathcad, with variable limits of integrals?Thanks and regards
Lothar W.

Just rename the dummy integration variable. Integral limit and dummy variable should not have the same name (That's not a software limit but a math rule).

Edit: Hint added to handbook page.


Thank You very much. I knowed it, but was blind for it. Now I have many to do, but the summer ...

Regards
Lothar W.
(thanks butten in forum dosn't work)
Do collisions of spheres generate the fine structure constant?
http://struktron.de/FSK/...onstante-Berechnung.html
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