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Hello, Why this discrepancy? Thank you, Basile
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Originally Posted by: Basile Why this discrepancy? Maybe user style ?
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°C can't be cancelled against K. Changes or differences of temperatures have to be tagged by Delta in the non-absolute temperature units. See this post |
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Originally Posted by: mkraska °C can't be cancelled against K. Wolfram alpha says K/°C=1. Do we need the same behavior?
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Originally Posted by: Andrey Ivashov Wolfram alpha says K/°C=1. Do we need the same behavior?
It doesn't show that here: https://www.wolframalpha...input/?i=1kelvin%2F1degCIt converts °C to Kelvin before performing the division. Edit: Here shows the result 1 K/K, but it specifies it's interpreting °C as delta degree C. Personally, I prefer using the explicit Δ°C when performing these types of computations. I understand it's may be more confusing to some, but I also believe it's important to be explicit in syntax. Edited by user 28 February 2019 22:55:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Andrey Ivashov Interesting. I would think these both should compute to the same value since WA says they are assuming temperature in degrees Celsius and not delta temperature. For what it's worth, I think the image on the right is incorrect IF assuming degrees Celsius as stated. The following explicitly states the assuming of degrees difference and computes to 1 appropriately. |
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Did you attach the wrong image? I don't see an appropriate computation to 1. Instead, I see 1*K/K, K is not cancelled, perhaps because each stands for different quantities. Yet I don't see why any tagging or assumption making should be required for offset-free temperature units. Is there any example where such distinguishing would be required? Originally Posted by: alyles The following explicitly states the assuming of degrees difference and computes to 1 appropriately. |
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All the elaborate assumption making doesn't save WA from adding two absolute temperatures and taking the result as a difference. I still vote in favour of the Delta-tagging of non-absolute units. Perhaps we should add a hint on that to the help strings of °C and °F (to use Deltas if changes or rates are expected). As long as temperature results strictly default to K units, we are safe. If someone wants to write °C, he will see the hint and still can judge whether to tag or not to tag with Delta. This might reduce the frequency of this issue popping up in the forum. |
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SI units system is largely not compatible with Engineering.
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