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Offline GerardLardner  
#1 Posted : 15 October 2021 15:00:22(UTC)
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I see this has been asked before from time to time, the last time about 3 years ago. I would like to raise it again.

Would it be possible to have a 'tabbed' interface, where one could switch quickly between pages (worksheets) by selecting the appropriate tab; also, to be able to drag a tab or group of tabs out onto the desktop as a separate SMath window? Like one can do with most current web browsers and some pdf editors; this is rather different from Excel tabs, which are multiple pages within the same workbook.

This presumes it must be possible to open multiple SMath windows, with multiple Pages (worksheet tabs) within each window, and to pull tabs, singly or in groups, to other SMath windows or onto the desktop where they would become new SMath windows. This would be in addition to the current Pages function, which would work at least within the current window.
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Offline Jean Giraud  
#2 Posted : 15 October 2021 16:45:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GerardLardner Go to Quoted Post
I see this has been asked before from time to time, the last time about 3 years ago.
I would like to raise it again.

1. You can have as many Smath documents as you wish.
Simply open new Smath instance after the 1rst, 2nd ... etc.
2. If a pertaining piece of work is short ► insert between separators.
That will allow tabbing from pages to pages.
3. You can fake the absent functionality wherever you want
by inserting a region that generates
as you click on the on the scroll bar you reach your
desired either page or region of the document(s).
Try something from the attached ... like/dislike/comments.
Cheers ... Jean.

Utilities Discrete COMPANION_1 Copy.sm (590kb) downloaded 10 time(s).

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#3 Posted : 15 October 2021 17:08:13(UTC)
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that is a brilliant and shall be useful request.
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#4 Posted : 16 October 2021 00:17:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GerardLardner Go to Quoted Post
1. You can have as many Smath documents as you wish.
Simply open new Smath instance after the 1rst, 2nd ... etc.
2. If a pertaining piece of work is short ► insert between separators.
That will allow tabbing from pages to pages.
3. You can fake the absent functionality wherever you want
by inserting a region that generates
as you click on the on the scroll bar you reach your
desired either page or region of the document(s).
Try something from the attached ... like/dislike/comments.
Cheers ... Jean.


Jean, what you say is correct; but what I am asking is somewhat different. I want to separate have SMath, maybe on different screens, with several worksheets in each window, so I can easily compare, switch between them, or maybe just switch my focus as the (bird-like?) failure of my attention takes me.


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#5 Posted : 16 October 2021 00:18:31(UTC)
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Gerard, Between You and Me
Most Smath Designers are aware of Mathcad/Mathsoft
The "Go to" was demonstrated [Mathsoft].
I posted few examples ... Was not used by none.
An Engineering document is a stand alone piece of work.
What's the use of go here /there ?
The attached demo can be be visited for independent pieces.
Revisit Samples Symbolic Compendium [few weeks ago].
I will not TOC that document, it is a learning suite.
Cheers ... Jean

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#6 Posted : 16 October 2021 14:19:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GerardLardner Go to Quoted Post
but what I am asking is somewhat different.

We all understood what you meant.
For those who can't, check the picture below.
Gerard requested a selectable tabbed interface.
Similar to tabbed interface of a file explorer.
But implemented on smath gui.

Regards

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#7 Posted : 16 October 2021 14:33:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GerardLardner Go to Quoted Post
I see this has been asked before from time to time, the last time about 3 years ago. I would like to raise it again.

Would it be possible to have a 'tabbed' interface, where one could switch quickly between pages (worksheets) by selecting the appropriate tab; also, to be able to drag a tab or group of tabs out onto the desktop as a separate SMath window? Like one can do with most current web browsers and some pdf editors; this is rather different from Excel tabs, which are multiple pages within the same workbook.

This presumes it must be possible to open multiple SMath windows, with multiple Pages (worksheet tabs) within each window, and to pull tabs, singly or in groups, to other SMath windows or onto the desktop where they would become new SMath windows. This would be in addition to the current Pages function, which would work at least within the current window.


I was just about posting the same feature request, this is pretty much what I would like. I kinda like the cloud version because I can have multiple document in different tab and drag and drop on different monitor, but I don't know how to install plugin on the cloud, so it is a no go.

Right now it is a little awkward to have multiple documents open at the same time: since they occupy the same window (on Win10 at least), it is not immediately clear how many documents are currently open, unless you go to click on "documents" on the toolbar. I know I can open how many instance of SS I want, but then I've got to open the file I want from menu within program window, go trough the file picker and find the file I'm looking for, because if I open the file from the explorer, it will open on the first instance of SS and not in the new one.

Since I am new to SS and still learning it, I find useful using others files as reference while working on my own.

Let me add to your request my suggestion that I find work very well with a tabbed interface: it would be nice if unsaved documents were not lost when exiting the program like in notepad++. Sometimes I find that I just need to scribble down some calculations, but I am not ready or sure if worth saving, but also I don't want to loose them just in case. I really like this notepad++ feature that let me to be very flexible, but I also understand that a notepad++ is only text, where SS file are a little more complicated and dynamic with rendering calculations and maybe images.
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#8 Posted : 16 October 2021 15:55:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kompre Go to Quoted Post
it would be nice if unsaved documents were not lost when exiting the program

Win 7 ... closing Smath each unsaved document prompts
Do you want to save ?

What you are saying is Win 10 just evaporates, w/o prompt ?
My TOC demo convol.sm is for convenient visit within same document.
Multiple instances of Mathematica 4.0 ... Mathcad 11
tile are about same ... click on each to check which one to open
then click to open ► 2 clicks.
Smath Win 7, click Smath tool bar for the list of instances
click the selected instance ► 2 clicks
Simply deceptive or deceptively simple
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#9 Posted : 16 October 2021 16:36:56(UTC)
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yet once again, with an inexplicable motivation, main subject was avoided and now we are off-topic.
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Offline Jean Giraud  
#10 Posted : 16 October 2021 23:24:15(UTC)
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1. convol fake TOC is fine to for so few I have.
2. Tab miscellaneous instances is natural simple.
Writer region is already an instance of its own.

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#11 Posted : 17 October 2021 00:12:54(UTC)
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Hi. I have no idea if it is possible or not, but in Microsoft Office this can be achieved using a plugin. Here you can see one of the many available:

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From: https://www.extendoffice.../product/office-tab.html

Perhaps this is also the case for SMath.

Best regards.
Alvaro.
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Offline Jean Giraud  
#12 Posted : 17 October 2021 14:43:14(UTC)
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Your very first visit 2 days ago is all-in-all
Besides previous discussion, use Win facilities.
From my Win 7 task bar, I can browse my demand,
click the object ... here is.
Click SmathFile [pretty long] ... data, images ...
Click PDF ... all by list
All that stuff from a single task bar icon.

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Offline Jean Giraud  
#13 Posted : 17 October 2021 15:55:23(UTC)
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All that stuff from a single task bar icon.

It updates automatically.
Offline Jean Giraud  
#14 Posted : 22 October 2021 22:17:47(UTC)
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My suggestion of the task bar menu may be proposed otherwise,
i.e: Mathcad 11 style drop down menu My Site from an icon right to 'Help'.
Click on the wish list ... there is on the same Smath screen.
No echo from Designers from years above ?
Copy from one screen ... paste to another ?
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#15 Posted : 22 October 2021 23:58:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Razonar Go to Quoted Post
Hi. I have no idea if it is possible or not, but in Microsoft Office this can be achieved using a plugin.

Though I don't use MS Office, this tab plugin look awesome.
I didn't know there are that kind of plugins for MS Office.
I guess that is exactly what Gerard look for.
Not some mediocre and primitive workarounds.
Thanks for the information.

Regards
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