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Offline G-Tate  
#1 Posted : 03 December 2018 17:55:52(UTC)
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Hello there,

while working with (<3) SMath Studio, I missed some functions that could be very useful for me in writing tasks for other students.

- change the size of footer and header.

- while setting dot for comma, after typing comma a multiplication appears. Would be nice if, after typing comma here, the dot comma appears. In the opposite way it works.

- !insert indices and potencies in normal text!

- typing more boolean alike without that irritating clips to appear

FUR SMATH.png After doing this for a while, it gets really annoying Biggrin

- the area name should also appear at the end of the area shouldnt it? And if I could close an area at the end of it too, that would be great.


thanks for reading



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#2 Posted : 03 December 2018 18:57:22(UTC)
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- !insert indices and potencies in normal text!
You have that from the Writer region.

- typing more boolean alike without that irritating clips to appear.
Smath brackets differently than other, more conventional script style.
Personally, I prefer Smath convention.

- change the size of footer and header.
Header/Footer have legal authority in native Windows.
Why do you want to freak the law ?

Multiplication exists in 3 styles [2*ln(x), 2.ln(x), implicit 2ln(x)
Smath style is unique 2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9=362880
Implicit style is confusing.
coma [,] or [;] for arguments separators.

What is an area ?
In Smath, you insert an area to collapse math/text/image ... regions.
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#3 Posted : 03 December 2018 19:19:43(UTC)
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1. Collapsed area
2. More Bolean

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#4 Posted : 04 December 2018 03:07:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: G-Tate Go to Quoted Post
typing more boolean alike without that irritating clips to appear


Just to clarify, parentheses in booleans were introduced because often calculations of newbies were affected of wrong statements in if() functions, where you might be tempted to use something like a<x<b with standard operators; automatic parenthesis points out what are you really writing: either [(a<x) = 1 or 0]<b or a<[1 or 0 = (x<c)]; the same obviously with other operations like a=b=c.


BTW, if neeeded, in Custom functions there is a set of functions that wraps ternary comparisons:

2018-12-04 01_06_48-SMath Studio - [Page1].png

Edited by user 04 December 2018 03:17:21(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#5 Posted : 05 December 2018 11:29:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post
- !insert indices and potencies in normal text!
You have that from the Writer region.


Ah. Thank you Biggrin
Thats very useful.

Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post

- change the size of footer and header.
Header/Footer have legal authority in native Windows.
Why do you want to freak the law ?


just a request >_>
Maybe we forget about that.


Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post

Multiplication exists in 3 styles [2*ln(x), 2.ln(x), implicit 2ln(x)
Smath style is unique 2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9=362880
Implicit style is confusing.
coma [,] or [;] for arguments separators.


I should explain that with a picture.

Punkt_Komma.png




Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post

What is an area ?
In Smath, you insert an area to collapse math/text/image ... regions.


2Area_request.png




Originally Posted by: Davide Carpi Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: G-Tate Go to Quoted Post
typing more boolean alike without that irritating clips to appear


Just to clarify, parentheses in booleans were introduced because often calculations of newbies were affected of wrong statements in if() functions, where you might be tempted to use something like a<x<b with standard operators; automatic parenthesis points out what are you really writing: either [(a<x) = 1 or 0]<b or a<[1 or 0 = (x<c)]; the same obviously with other operations like a=b=c.



Now I understand. Thanks for the Information.



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#6 Posted : 05 December 2018 12:53:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Davide Carpi Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: G-Tate Go to Quoted Post
typing more boolean alike without that irritating clips to appear


Just to clarify, parentheses in booleans were introduced because often calculations of newbies ... the same obviously with other operations like a=b=c.


Hi. Or can hack the sm file deleting where "(" appears:

Clipboard01.gif
HackingEqual.sm (4kb) downloaded 23 time(s).

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#7 Posted : 06 December 2018 23:23:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Razonar Go to Quoted Post

Hi. Or can hack the sm file deleting where "(" appears:

Clipboard01.gif
HackingEqual.sm (4kb) downloaded 23 time(s).

Best regards.
Alvaro.


Very nice, exactly what I wanted.
Copy paste or changing the content doesn´t work unfortunately.
Is it difficult to do that or is there an easy way?
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Offline Jean Giraud  
#8 Posted : 07 December 2018 02:14:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: G-Tate Go to Quoted Post
Very nice, exactly what I wanted.
Copy paste or changing the content doesn't work unfortunately.
Is it difficult to do that or is there an easy way?


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Offline Razonar  
#9 Posted : 09 December 2018 17:23:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: G-Tate Go to Quoted Post

Is it difficult to do that or is there an easy way?


Hi G-Tate. Difficult. I edit the sm file with a text editor and delete the "bracket" lines:

Clipboard1.gif

Best regards.
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#10 Posted : 10 December 2018 05:21:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: G-Tate Go to Quoted Post
- typing more boolean alike without that irritating clips to appear


The style you are looking for, i.e: multiple = without bracket
was the style Smath 5346. The bracket style appeared SMath 6179.
IMHO, the bracket style is necessary in other instances, thus generalized.
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#11 Posted : 10 December 2018 17:32:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Razonar Go to Quoted Post

Hi G-Tate. Difficult. I edit the sm file with a text editor and delete the "bracket" lines:

Clipboard1.gif

Best regards.
Alvaro.


Thanks very much! Biggrin
Thats a nice trick to know.
But of course not the real solution.


Originally Posted by: Jean Giraud Go to Quoted Post

The style you are looking for, i.e: multiple = without bracket
was the style Smath 5346. The bracket style appeared SMath 6179.
IMHO, the bracket style is necessary in other instances, thus generalized.



Thanks Jean, I unterstand that.
You see, it was just a request and I could spare some time being able to have an operator with the possibility to have multiple "=" to set some defintions.
With the trick from Razonar I will be fine for now, if searching and deleting the bracket lines doesnt gets to costly.
Thank you guys.


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Offline Razonar  
#12 Posted : 10 December 2018 18:28:20(UTC)
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Hi. I agree with the solution of force parenthesis for equals and inequalities, because it's true that can introduce errors in it's absence. But for users that want something more flexible, Mathcad have the option to write "f(x,y)" as "x f y". The use of extra parenthesis for this notation was unnecessary because is reserved for represent some special cases, more like a math equation editor more than a math calculator. There are another equal sign in the unicode fonts: ꞊ , which is A78Ah. Defining ꞊(a,b ) : = a≡b one can write with the new notation x ꞊ y ꞊ z ꞊ t.

Also it could be very interesting to have two more buttons: "f sub x" for f(x) and "f sub x,y" for f(x,y). For example, with "f sub x" you can write successions terms in the usual way, a[n], instead a(n), or define some interesting for partial derivatives, deltas, nablas, sums, products ... ∂ ∆ ∏ ∑ with one or two subscripts.

Best regards
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