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Offline uni  
#41 Posted : 28 September 2012 12:16:42(UTC)
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#42 Posted : 28 September 2012 14:24:18(UTC)
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I see, thank you Good

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#43 Posted : 29 September 2012 13:06:35(UTC)
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Updated (see first message). I changed the name of the plugin, as well as the archive. Be careful. Function within an expression maple() will be run in the maple interpreter.
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#44 Posted : 29 September 2012 15:16:14(UTC)
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It seems it is working on the Win7(64) as well Good

Just a minor thing I've noted - a slash appear sometimes (see the picture please)

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#45 Posted : 29 September 2012 21:20:18(UTC)
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Thamks very much, great work uni. I have some problems to set up the plugin in some configurations, don't know why, but it run in other machine.

One question: ¿How to write MS(x):maple(parse(x,statement)) with delayed evaluation? When I talk about wrapper i refeer to functions like MS, and the ability to define f:sin and then call f(2), but smath can't do this.

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#46 Posted : 29 September 2012 22:26:36(UTC)
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Hi. ¿Waht about a ini file for enable to call any symbolic (or numeric) "console" engine? Like:

[ProgramName]
Derive ; The first arg for the function?

[CommandLine]
"c:\command\derive\derive3\derive.exe" ; Program with full path to call, DOS format (or windows also, maybe)

[PreProcess]
XXXX ; Translation smath2derive notation

[PostProcess]
XXXX ; Translation derive2smath notation

[ProgramName]
Another ...

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#47 Posted : 30 September 2012 02:34:19(UTC)
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Updated.

The configuration file will be (Config.xml), but not for the general case (I'll think about it). Intermediate transformations more complicated with each version. Look at the source: maple.cs.

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When I talk about wrapper i refeer to functions like MS, and the ability to define f:sin and then call f(2), but smath can't do this.

Need pointers to functions? This requires a "function" data type but it explicitly is missing. SMath and Maple have different memory locations for their data and I have no way easy to combine them.
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#48 Posted : 30 September 2012 03:45:29(UTC)
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Hi uni. I'm not that fast, like you. Need some time to check your update.

What I want to say with a wrapper is that if i go to write some programs don't want to change "maple" for "derive", just use some "parse" function, and change it in the code, and let the parse definition in some kind of library. For example, Scientific Notebook can works with maple or mupad.

Maybe smath can have a general external caller, like a parse function with independence of specific dll called.

Probably the autor don't want to distribute it (it's a obvious risk)

Or maybe can be distributed but disable for default, like mathcad's components.

Please, see the attached.

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#49 Posted : 30 September 2012 03:47:54(UTC)
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Slashes in the Radovan examples seems to be related with interface(pagewith) or some similar thing. But the results can't be evaluated numerically by smath, so, it's a point to pay attention.

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#50 Posted : 30 September 2012 04:03:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uni Go to Quoted Post
Updated.

The configuration file will be (Config.xml), but not for the general case (I'll think about it). Intermediate transformations more complicated with each version. Look at the source: maple.cs.


Oh. Well, I see maple.cs. You are rigth: it's a big (but really a big) effort the translation.

Maybe my idea was not a very good idea, I don't see that kind of complications in your previous versions.

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#51 Posted : 30 September 2012 04:35:12(UTC)
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1. Maple can't find the answer and returns the original expression



2. I'll think about the type of range (`..`).

3. Updated

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#52 Posted : 30 September 2012 05:35:47(UTC)
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Maybe smath can have a general external caller, like a parse function with independence of specific dll called.

There is one big problem. Yes, SMath has tools for assembly and disassembly of the primitives, but it does not have the images in the core in order to understand and display.
It's like with people. One person has some images in his head, the other person - other images. In the simple things they understand each other, but in a complicated - it requires education. To really understand the other programs, SMath needs to be upgraded its "images".
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#53 Posted : 30 September 2012 06:46:13(UTC)
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Hello,

How I install this into SMath?
from the zip I get:
MapleWrapper_20120930
then
example and plugins
and from the plugins
LIB LICENSE mvr5
plus the files.

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#54 Posted : 30 September 2012 06:53:18(UTC)
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Just copy with keeping paths.

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#55 Posted : 01 October 2012 00:45:18(UTC)
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Has anybody got a clue why smath can't communicate with this?



Actually not, but maybe can tray changing the exe properties (right buttum click) to compatibility mode.

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And, Uni, I have noticed that your maple files are slightly different from what I am running under Mathcad 11.2SG. Can this be something related to sources and could this possibly have any impact on my issues?


I ask to uni to use not maple VR4 but maple VR5. The difference between both is big, in the sense that small codes write in MVR5 are usually more compatibles with last versions of Maple, derive, wolframalpha and others. Also have much less bugs, and those code write in C to handle MVR5 is easy to use to handle all new versions of maple (key are how maple use strings)

Even MVR4 have the big adventage that is the version for mathcad 10 to 13, MVR5 is used by matlab from 5 to ... a lot of new versions, and others like Scientific Notebook.

I guess that uni can point you to the his last version of the plugin that uses MVR4.
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#56 Posted : 01 October 2012 01:01:23(UTC)
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There is another cookie - it works on Win7(x64). Therefore I recommended to use only the new version of the plugin.

Updated:

+ greek symbols;
+ definite integral.



As far as I remember:
- Derive is dead (thanks TI);
- and in Matlab is used Mupad (now).

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#57 Posted : 01 October 2012 01:56:47(UTC)
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There is another cookie - it works on Win7(x64). Therefore I recommended to use only the new version of the plugin.


Big work, thanks uni.

Originally Posted by: uni Go to Quoted Post

As far as I remember:
- Derive is dead (thanks TI);
- and in Matlab is used Mupad (now).


Derive is still used in Latin America and Spain in education. With symbengine.m you can choose between mupad or maple in matlab. Similar behavoir you have in Scientific Notebook (semi-dead software, used in Spain too).

I gues that this could be a good solution for a symbolic engine in smath. But for this you can't have *.sm files with the command maple inside, but with other (i.e. a "wraper" called Parse, Symb, EvalSym, M, or something else). Even maple is very good, isn't free. But Maxima is excellent, and free. Not very very sure, but guess that it is free distributalbe too.

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#58 Posted : 02 October 2012 09:17:36(UTC)
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Updated:

+ support for arrays (need to test);
* small changes.

Look at the examples: example\parse.sm and example\Intersect_example_001.pdf (plot_example_1.sm).
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#59 Posted : 03 October 2012 11:00:02(UTC)
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+ support for el() (only for vectors) and submatrix().

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#60 Posted : 05 October 2012 07:40:31(UTC)
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[x] - little fixed a little problem with nested el() functions.
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