Originally Posted by: Jason McCool That is interesting. I've noticed your "Russia forever" signature in the past, but did not know you were born in Ukraine.
In fact, I was born in the Soviet Union. At that time, it didn't matter where you were born. I was born in the ukrainian part of the Soviet Union, but I was brought up in a soviet school.
Quote:Supposing my home state of Arkansas and my birth state of Texas went to war for some reason, I wouldn't want that no matter how justified I thought one or the other was.
It's not the same thing. President Putin even explained in his televised address that one should look at the history of the issue. Did you watch his full one-hour historical explanation? What is not clear to you?
Link to full video (rus):
Quote:I have friends and family in both, and no matter who won, people I love might die.
It depends on the question. If they come to the threshold of your house and the question arises of who will die, then you will make your choice. We look at the military bases around Russia and make our choice. What happens near our house is our problem. We don't like the way the US is behaving either, but when did anyone care? I specifically quoted the first sentence in the previous post for you to think before you continue.
30 years have passed and your family is no longer yours in this particular example. One day your family tells you that we are no longer a family. Here is one example of what it looks like (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv97YeC563Y). Here, a ukrainian teenager explains in russian in the form of a verse that we are no longer brothers and never will be. This is the result of modern education. I lived in Ukraine before she was born and it is impossible to imagine such a thing then. This is a mild example, which I want to show that war is not only hot. There are other ways of waging war on foreign territory. We've had it for 30 years.
Quote:We could justify invading North Korea or a host of other countries with that logic
I have no doubt that North Korea would have ended long ago if they didn't have nuclear weapons. When did the US stop something? One vial was enough to invade Iraq. I'm not talking about everything else.
Of course, the point is not only in Bandera, his methods and georization. If you are really interested, then you should have read the entire history of Ukraine up to modern times. Further, you need to understand that there are no independent small countries in nature. They simply don't exist. Each such country makes a choice in the person of its elite. If it can't, then this leads to a civil war - as in Ukraine (Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk). If the government does not want to give up its positions, then it is forced by force (Russia - 1993, Ukraine - 2014). You will understand all this when tanks come to your White House and shoot it down, as was done in Russia.
All these events are directly related to the collapse of the Soviet Union. They are trying to finish us off with the help of the collective West. This story goes on for 1000 years. Russia has always been at war, but the West has been at war for much longer. It is foolish to assume that in the world of money, resources and power, someone will try to make friends. We tried, but it was taken for weakness. Why test our patience?
Russia wants to be accepted as an equal on this planet. And this will have to be done. Either we will be equal or we will be divided and destroyed, as is usually done. This is how this issue is seen in general from our side.