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Offline Jean Giraud  
#41 Posted : 29 November 2020 03:58:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: overlord Go to Quoted Post
You really don't understand what we are telling, do you?
What if you really had to change the diagram or create a different diagram from scratch?

In the picture below, I had created your example diagram in MS Word using only shapes. Also added an additional step for you to understand.

I understand and produce what the client team can visualize/sanity check, for them to solve/advance their demand. I was the sole Canadian single consultant for AECL [Atomic Energy Canada Limited ... not just a pet shop]. I appreciate what you can do otherwise, as long as you associate the maths that govern your new diagram. Your last circle ? comes from the maths that you have removed. In short, your diagram is crippled.
My original diagram represents a not visual working algo.
It complements the most common logic diagrams only useful for coding that needs no understanding the objective end use.
You are right, I don't understand why you are asking more about you own doing.
If you have it doing so simply, why a plugin rather that suggesting a tool ?
In that music, You play flute, I play "don't know" or vice versa.
Just need a Master Orchestra, chasing cloud by hand ... Seemingly, Martin offers himself.
Take care ... Jean

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#42 Posted : 29 November 2020 09:50:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: overlord Go to Quoted Post
It is scalable and vectorial, you can easily add new items or remove existing without print quality loss.
You can also create it with Inkscape, Adobe Illustrator, etc. But please explain, why shouldn't we also do this inside SMath?
We are just dreaming here (only dreaming at this moment) to create or manipulate this kind of things in SMath Studio.

This is more complicated than a simple shape plugin. If the shapes need to be connected or combined into diagrams, then this is already more difficult. You should know that in ms office not svg pictures are used, but special classes, since you can't have interactive schemes based on pictures alone. It will look like a small cad system. I mentioned this earlier here. The OpenS-CAD source code is more suitable for your requirements.
But as you probably know, you need to find human resources to do this job. Unfortunately, it is not yet clear how to do this. Most of the users are happy with the current functionality.
This topic is used only for collect ideas, not for discussing them. I created a separate one where you can continue, but there is a bug in the forum engine that prevents me from moving the discussion there.

Edited by user 29 November 2020 09:51:38(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#43 Posted : 29 November 2020 11:11:07(UTC)
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Shapes don't need to be connected, they are not in this example too.
Only need is them to be simple resize function.
Some polygons, triangle, square, circle, lines and arrows should be enough.
This is just an idea by the way.

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#44 Posted : 29 November 2020 22:29:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: overlord Go to Quoted Post
Some polygons, triangle, square, circle, lines and arrows should be enough.

1. Polygons we have all sorts published [Area, Perimeter, Center of gravity]
2. Square, Triangle ... pretty easy
3. Circles ... we have all sorts in the Forum
4. Plenty of arrows.
Enjoy the clock ... Jean

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#45 Posted : 01 December 2020 04:08:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: uni Go to Quoted Post
This is more complicated than a simple shape plugin. If the shapes need to be connected or combined into diagrams, then this is already more difficult.

That's the answer.
Once you will have digested the under the hood of gyzmas shapes from Samples SVG Primer,
it is clear that all your creations are in vector. Then you need a core structure to
join all those vectors [of your creation] into again a resulting stand alone creation
That's what CAD systems do and there are plenty freeware ... LibreCAD, FreeCAD ...
Unfortunately, none come with infinite library of gyzmas shapes.
In 1990, I was consulting to revamp a bunker 2 Power Plant.
No choice: AutoCAD 11 ... why ?
Quebec-Hydro spent ~ 2 millions $ US for AutoDesk to design AutoCAD 11
wrt Process Control & Instrumentation, we had to design all our symbols +++
Who has need of that kind of re-invention in Smath ? ...
To me, SVG Plugin is a dead stone that won't grow wings until it turns into fertilizer.


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#46 Posted : 01 December 2020 15:21:33(UTC)
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Yes uni, you are right. It is not easy task and require manpower but I think it is not impossible or very hard.
It is not a CAD system I am talking. You misunderstood the concept. There are already web sites which are SVG creators and editors.

https://editor.method.ac

There are also several vbnet codes I have found but not tested.

ShapeEditorTest_VS2010.zip (35kb) downloaded 9 time(s).

If I hadn't leave coding for 10+ years and have spare time nowadays, I assure you I could implement it. If html code can svg editing, .Net code sure can do.

And it was not me who made this is a discussion.
It was Jean who made it which one will piss further contest, as always he do.
I have just wrote my idea about a plugin to draw svg internally, he still try to debunk it.
He even tries to debunk bug reports which are truly there waiting for to be corrected. I just don't like his attitude about these issues. If he continue this I will reply to it.

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Offline Jean Giraud  
#47 Posted : 01 December 2020 19:34:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: overlord Go to Quoted Post
Yes uni, you are right. It is not easy task and require manpower but I think it is not impossible or very hard.
It is not a CAD system I am talking. You misunderstood the concept. There are already web sites which are SVG creators and editors.

Slight consolation that two of us misunderstood the concept.
Consequently to the failure of my XP Home PC, I have lost the personal e-mail
of Steen Groode the creator of GeoGebra https://www.geogebra.org/m/WWYy5394
Plenty of advanced Classrooms

Offline Razonar  
#48 Posted : 01 December 2020 20:11:28(UTC)
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Hi. Ok, now we have Document mode, in a first stage of implementation. Very good! So, time for ask for the next feature Good

Presentation mode!. SMath now can also store the zoom of the document, which can help in this feature. Presentation mode could mean different thinks, depending of the point of view of the developer. For example, this is what mean in Wolfram mathematica: https://reference.wolfra...to/CreateASlideShow.html

In Microsoft Power Point there are also an option (in a button at right bottom) for use the slides in presentation mode but into a window, not in fullscreen.

Maybe for SMath Presentation mode could be a fixed window with controls for move between slides, from some given templates for the screen proportions, in this case, the paper size and the default zoom. I guess that maybe that don't require a big effort for recoding everything. I don't know also if it necessary a new extension (like smp and smpz) or not.

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Alvaro.

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#49 Posted : 04 December 2020 09:40:09(UTC)
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PETSc/TS: A Modern Scalable ODE/DAE Solver Library (arxiv.org:1806.01437)

PETSc Users Manual Revision 3.14 (03.12.2020).pdf (1,309kb) downloaded 10 time(s).

SOSlib - The SBML ODE SOLVER LIBRARY (arxiv.org:1503.01095)

github: https://github.com/raim/SBML_odeSolver

SBML ODE solver library. Extensions for inverse analysis.pdf (227kb) downloaded 9 time(s).
SBML ODE Solver Library. A native API for symbolic and fast numerical analysis of reaction networks.pdf (57kb) downloaded 7 time(s).

ODEN: A Framework to Solve Ordinary Differential Equations using Artificial Neural Networks (arxiv.org:2005.14090)

github: https://github.com/deniswerth/ODEN

Neural Ordinary Differential Equations (arxiv.org:1806.07366)
Solving Differential Equations Using Neural Network Solution Bundles (arxiv.org:2006.14372)
When are Neural ODE Solutions Proper ODEs? (arxiv.org:2007.15386)

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#50 Posted : 22 February 2021 18:24:31(UTC)
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freesteam

Open source steam property routines in C. Implements the IAPWS-IF97 steam tables from the International Association for the Properties of Water and Steam. Includes two-way property solvers and test suite. Can be used from C/C++, Fortran, Python, LabVIEW, Octave and ASCEND.

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2. https://github.com/kevinfu2/freesteam
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